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Friday, March 21, 2008

Hating Kylie Kwong

This is like a sport with me. I would be hungry, and turn on lifestyle channel and run into a kylie kwong marathon, and 5 minutes later be full on hate. I really don't have a problem with her actual recipes per se, it's the fact that she thinks it's Chinese cooking. If she would just own up to the fact that, being 5th generation Australian, there is actually very little Chinese left in her apart from the way she looks. Her training has been largely accredited to Niel Perry, who is well respected for being the grandaddy of fusion cooking in Australia. Fusion, not actually Asian, and especially not attributed to any particular country, let alone region. Now in comes kylie, using her Chinese looks and a part and partial knowledge of asian cooking ingredients that are widely available, in Safeway no less, (namely sesame oil, peanut oil and yellow wine which she calls chinese cooking wine, there's about 20 different varieties of chinese cooking wine but what gives right? she only can see the one that gets sold here.) and automatically gets three tv series deals, lifestyle food marathons and books that offensively overtake my Borders.

She doesn't seem to understand that Chinese food as we know it in Australia is largely Cantonese cooking, and she lumps everything together and calls it Chinese. Her palette is quite tame, just because she likes chicken feet, which frankly most of my white friends love, she thinks herself quite daring.

here are some instances:

*She was making san choi bao and she made up some crap about Chinese vegetarianism. which was utter crap, because unless you have the shaved head of a monk, vegetarianism is looked upon with utmost horror, and you'd starve in most places you go. Then as she was preparing the the bok choy she said "choy means green in Chinese, and it's spelled c-h-o-y". there are about 3 things wrong with that. First choy is in Cantonese, it means vegetables, it has no spelling but it's transliterated and not in English, where it is in turns spelled with either a "y" or an "i", and is in fact the same choy as san "choi" bao. Oh and it really doesn't belong IN a san choi bao.

*She then goes on about how there's two types of noodles, egg and rice. she couldn't be more wrong. Just the sheer fact that pasta originated in China and was brought over by Marco Polo would give you a pretty good clue that there are probably some rocking flour noodles in Chinese cooking. I am 350% sure she has never tasted a proper bowl of Eastern Chinese noodle soup. I've been looking forever in Melbourne for a decent bowl and it just doesn't exist. Even Shanghai (the hodge podge mecca of everything that it is) doesn't do it justice. You really have to venture out to Chang Shu, and more specifically to a place that used to exist down the street from where I grew up, for the most amazing mouth orgasm of your life. Every winter I dream of having some hot lamb noodle soup, and it is my absolute favourite thing. It was something I used to share with my grandfather, a love for noodles. I'm always going to miss that.

*Hypocrisy upon hypocrisy, she landed in Shanghai (a land of her past, a place she's never been to but feels like she "knows") and refused to try the stinky tofu. Failing to recognise the stinky tofu for what it is, actually discredits her as a foodie let alone chef.

*and now she's going on about making a Chinese iceberg lettuce salad. Honey please, there is no iceberg lettuce in China, they don't even know what it is. It gets imported to Hong Kong where they use it primarily for san choi baos and that's it. That's as far as the lettuce is used in all of "chinese cooking"

*"Everywhere I go I see familiar tastes and smells" as the camera lingers on a shot of takoyaki. yup. Japanese octopus balls. She didn't even know what they were.

*shen jian bao, pan fried Shanghai mini pork buns. I especially love how whenever she comes across any cooking or food preparation she likes to explain what it is to the camera without asking anyone about it and make comments like "the quality of a pork bun, is shown in how many pleats it has". Absolute bollocks. It merely shows the delicacy of the wrap. Oh and then she made deepfried wontons, which was created by American takeaway Chinese menus as a giveaway item.

my laptop is about to give out so I'll stop it there, and I'll turn the t.v. off. But SHUT UP KYLIE, YOU'RE NOT CHINESE. STOP PRETENDING!

All asians are by nature foodies, and anyone with any knowledge knows how much of a hack she is, she is catered to those suburban housewives wanting to add a little ethnic to her weekly rotation, and it just kinda sorta makes me sick.

68 comments:

Anonymous said...

that was wen yi by the way hahaha

Anonymous said...

Freaking A!!.

just today i saw one of her reruns on the food channel, and she was explaining that to make a shitty peasant stir fry 'authentically chinese' chop the cucumbers diagonally.

then the end of her show has her and some 'friends' going MMMM that's so good..

yeah whatever, as if they really talk like that.

Anonymous said...

Kylie Kwong Sucks....I totally agree.

I have had access to cable for past couple of months and seen her series in China. Each time it gets harder and harder to watch. Today I saw the episode where she kicked that poor local guy of his wok stand and made some crap wok stir fry with her bog standard sugar, wine, sesame oil and soy sauce. Thats when I realised I hate Kylie kwong as well!! Oh and the other thing that did it was like you said the bit about the stinky tofu, just pathetic. I bet you even the cameraman tried it!!

I am not chinese but am truly offended how she thinks she can go around with her ABC budget and take over peoples stalls. I mean she cant even speak a lick of chinese. Even ramsay can speak french!! She plays up on her 5th generation chinese background (does that even count!!!) dresses up in those ghastly asian style frocks and pretends to be some historian and every locals best friend. She needs to stay on the north shore of Sydney with all the other tossers there.

Spread the word.

Anonymous said...

gosh i love your post!
My husband and I have always been saying that this Kylie Kwang just wanted to use her Asian look to earn money!! and her restaurant Billy Kwang is just sooooo overated and overpriced!!

Anonymous said...

spot on.. she's a total faker selling her "Chinese-ness" to the silly whiteys who know no better.

Matilda said...

You are absolutely spot on! Such a fake. I also hate the way she overuses adjectives: "This sweet, sour, unctuous, pungent, beautiful, tasty...." What a load of rubbish!

Anonymous said...

What a nasty bunch of people who can't spell! No imagination ... Guys if you don' like it switch off and go back to watching reality TV where you belong!!!

Anonymous said...

What a nasty bunch of people who can't spell! No imagination ... Guys if you don' like it switch off and go back to watching reality TV where you belong!!!

Anonymous said...

I couldn't agree with you more. That was a really well written post. Her cooking is really an insult to Asian cuisine where almost every dish would consist of peanut oil and sesame oil. Please don't call that Chinese/Asian food when all you've created is a bastardized dish without any tradition.

Anonymous said...

I thoroughly agree with the posts. I can't watch any more than about five minutes. What a shame she can't just be herself and has to play the ethnic card. There are so many really talented Chinese chefs around doing authentic food, hopefully the ABC will find one of them.

Anonymous said...

"I saw the episode where she kicked that poor local guy of his wok stand and made some crap wok stir fry with her bog standard sugar, wine, sesame oil and soy sauce."

OH MY GOD, i was so angry when i saw that! and how she kept going "Ni, ni" and pointing. Horrible Woman :/

There's another one who is just as bad in the Uk called Ching He-Huang, however, I give her points for speaking Mandarin.

Sarah said...

Love this post!

xox Sarah

Anonymous said...

Love the post, and absolutely agree. Saw an episode where she was cooking "hokkien mee" and she was just dicing chicken and flooding with her standard sauces and chucked all in to stir fry. wtf?. And I found her behaviour and things said while in China totally offensive and condescending. She's a pretend chinese who has found her niche and fortune by conning wasps into thinking she is actually one

PiCkLeS said...

You know I always thought I was alone in thinking these things about Kylie, as you said it's nothing to do with her recipes but the way she sells it as being Chinese. I turned off the TV after the stinky tofu incident.

Anonymous said...

ROFL! This really make my day! I thought I was the only one who doesn't like Kylie Kwong until I found this post and the one at Sarah's post! It is a shame she has to drop the "chinese" card every time she cooks something.

As much as I hate her shows, I still keep watching them for some good rant and scream at the TV screen!

Anonymous said...

wow spot on.
In the same episode of the stinky tofu i really disliked the bit where she used gross body language and yelled "me me me me" to get in front of the wok. Then proceeded to shove money into the cooks top pocket...
I would punch someone in the face if they offended me in such a manner.

Anonymous said...

100% agree with you!! watched that episode when she was in shanghai and was appalled at her lack of effort to attempt to speak chinese to the locals!

i just flicked on the tv and a re-run of her show is on right now. She just showed her 'favourite' way of cooking rice. she calls it the 'absorption' method which consists of boiling rice in water in a pot over the stove. is she aware most chinese use these things called rice cookers?

cannot stand her!!!

Anonymous said...

Brilliant Post. She knows Jack about chinese traditions or chinese cooking. She is such a fake! She is a disgrace to both Chinese and Australians!!

Anonymous said...

I Like her ;-}

Anonymous said...

i just watched an episode where she proclaims she will make a 'simple' chinese steamboat. she makes her stock from vegetables and higlights the use of lemongrass(!). she also marinates the meats. just imagine the horrible, murky mess that would make for the soup.

she tells a story of how her dad would hog all the prawns for himself. then she suggests a method for stopping 'selfish' guests, (effectively callling her dad selfish), by giving them individual mini basket spoons so that everyone does their own thing. this shows her complete ignorance of the communal activity that is the steamboat.

in malaysia and singapore, we call people like this 'phean cheak'... con artists.

Anonymous said...

Sorry for bringing this post back up, but it was a fantastic read!

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Anonymous said...

i haven't gotten around to watching my china yet. i'm still stuck on the first series and trying to get over the super-depressing background music that makes me want to slit my wrists. however in kylie's defence i will say that she's not playing it up for the cameras. that's what she is like in real life. perhaps just a little overbearing? :P

kevin said...

I love your 'Hating Kylie kwong' post! Awesome!

I was wondering if Kylie even speaks any Chinese and this post shed more light about my suspicions. Watching Discovery Travel & Living, I caught some of her episode. She's in the streets of Shanghai acting asking her white tour guide/translator what the lady at the market said. Her tone was like asking what did that peasant monkey just say. Not only can't she speak Chinese, but she seems to show disdain for daily aspects of Chinese urban living, such as the inevitable crowds in cities.

Back to the kitchen, Kylie gives her introduction, “I’m going to show you my version” of blah blah blah with a vague story of how this is what the everyday Chinese person eats. What the hell! This is no different than you or I exploring a Chinese market then coming back to our version of Peking duck, a ham & cheese sandwich with duck sauce.

What sets Kylie apart from other celebrity chefs is that she takes you on a local tour, but can’t seem to make any of the so-called local dishes. To solve this, other chefs simply introduce the local expert whose family has been cooking an age-old dish for generations. They explain the ingredients, the history or cultural significance, show how it’s cooked and the result is mouth-watering enough that you want lick the TV monitor. Having Kylie show you her version of egg-fried rice on her show “Simply Magic” is simply crap!

Anonymous said...

Bring back Martin Yan! He was the man!

Anonymous said...

I couldn't agree more.

I am 1st generation chinese/australian, my mothers from Hong Kong and my Dad is chinese Malaysian.

My mum used to give Kylie Kwong a hard time.. I didn't understand why until I actually started watching her programs on foxtel.

I'm tierd of seeing her insulting and misrepresenting our culture on tv.

Anonymous said...

FINALLY, someone who understands my hate of Kylie Kwong! I hate her til no end. Well said.

...marry me.

IanR said...

She lost me when on the first show I ever saw she declared that Shao Xing Wine comes from South West China.

Later she was quoted in the SMH as saying that everything in China is tainted and that she refuses to use Chinese soy sauce. Well if you are cooking with Tamari, you are not cooking Chinese food.

I lived in Shanghai for over 7 years, during which time I fell in love with the food and champion its virtues wherever and whenever I can. I have no personal gripe with Kylie Kwong but her patronising, trivial, casual approach to this great cusine is shocking to me.

Anonymous said...

I'm a bit late but I only just saw my first episode of Kylie Kwong yesterday (in Hong Kong) when she was in Shanghai refusing to eat the stinky tofu.

After watching the entire show, I was so appalled with the whole thing I decided there must be alot of other people who felt the same way, and found your blog.

I agree with everything you said and think it is ridiculous that someone like Kylie Kwong should be able to present a show like that. I don't see any problem if they sold the show as what it was - fusion food.

In addition, I also thought she did not do any homework (the show looked unprepared), she kept repeating her lines (obviously no effort in writing a good script!), and to top it all off, I felt it was overdone that she dressed from head to toe in "Shanghai Tang" style clothes & jewellery.

I feel your frustration and really don't understand why she is popular at all. They are currently heavily promoting this Kylie Kwong - My China show on the local Hong Kong English channel, and it bugs me everytime I see an ad for it!

Anonymous said...

Well, she has her own show. If you don't like her, then why not open your own show.

For what i can see, you don't even like yourself. So easy to judge a person but you can't even see your own faults.

If you are so good, try cook some dishes and show it to the whole world. I think, you will start stammering in front of crowds or audience. Grown up.

Anonymous said...

SPOT ON GIRL!

Anonymous said...

We are not saying we can cook better than she does, but for someone to call her show 'My China', she should at least be respectful of Chinese cuisine, and know what she is talking about, which she has no clue about. I don't like her, but it doesn't mean I want to open my own show. I am not saying I am better than her, but it is pretty obvious that she doesn't know Chinese food, but she PRETENDS to know it, and in a way, she is deceiving the audience, and that's what is not acceptable. We all have faults, yes, but the problem with Kylie Kwong is she does not know her own faults and she pretends that she has no faults and flaunt her ignorance on TV.

Anonymous said...

Couldn't agree with you more. The dishes Kylie Kwong serves up, at best, can be called Chinese fusion food. I wouldn't call it authentic Chinese for a moment.
And I'm sure she wouldn't be able to name the 8 main regions/types of Chinese cuisine. And the distinguishing flavours of each.
As for those who think we hate K.K for her success and popularity, you couldn't be more wrong. We merely recognise that there are better cooks out there than ourselves. And K.K, unfortunately, is not one of them.

Anonymous said...

i wish you would learn to spell.

Kylie never admits to her cooking being all authentic chinese. its a combination of some chinese family recipes and modern australian cooking.

Anonymous said...

Once you started spouting the Marco Polo myth (scholars now suggest he never got anywhere near China) on pasta, you revealed that when it comes to accusing others of ignorance, you at least speak from experience.

You have some valid points about getting the facts correct, but let she who is without sin...

Anonymous said...

i have to agree with everything you said. i was born in HK but raised here, i think i know this food better than her. it infuriates me also, when she goes to china and "feels she know the place" her mispronunciation of things is so annoying, like when she calls BBQ pork "char shu", you think if she was so connected to her heritage she would have learned some basic language, this would have given her far more credibility. mostly i find she repeats herself over and over "finish with black vinegar" for the "balance of sweet & sour" yeah yeah we got it ok!!! her show is just self indulgent crap! and what is it with all those buddhist beads and the mandarin collars she wears all the time. PLEASE!!

my ex boyfriend knows her family and told me she is a lesbian too!

Anonymous said...

errmm....seems to be a year old post, but anyways, i've searched "Kylie Kwong sucks" and this came up first. HAHAAHA.

It seems that, im not the only one who thinks she's disgusting.

However, the only difference is that i continued watching her shows, if i had the chance, to see how Kylie make a complete fool out of herself EVERY SINGLE EPISODE.

ps. my phillipino maid cooks more authentic than Kylie, i think.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, You're not alone in thinking she's a fake. Shes as Chinese as sweet n' sour chicken. I don't have a problem with her cooking but really the way she portrays herself as a true blue Chinese is a bit ranking. Be a proud Australian you goose!

Anonymous said...

nice 1. Keep it up!!

Asian Chick said...

Yeah! I agree! Same ingredients! Peanut oil+ginger+garlic+shallots poured over the poor meat! I used to watch My China with all gusto but lately... I was noticing this pattern... oh no! now I am starting to hate her :o(

Anonymous said...

Fully agree, Kylie has nothing and she could not string an interesting sentence if she tried.

Anonymous said...

this blog should be turned into a cooking show! it's got heat! I hate all non Asian chefs doing Asian food and thinking they have invented or introduced this amazing cuisine to the us. Like Neil Perry, Marty from Longrain and Kylie- they have no idea that most Asians quietly think they have no idea!

Unknown said...

Spot on! After watching for 10mins of her show, had to find out if theres a club for hating that fake biatch

Kylie said...

You're right, absolutely, 110% right. Sadly, my name is Kylie, but unlike her, I am thoroughly Chinese, and proud to be one, not an ABC like her. I am willing to look past her mis faults if her command of the chinese language was good, but no, she can't understand a word!
Puh- leaz. Stop letting others view China from her WRONG point of view.

Anonymous said...

I find Kylie absolutely disgusting and agree on the blog so so much. She cooks with tamari which is purely not chinese and talks crap about chinese cooking. Her show is obviously a set up, it finishes the show with some friends saying mm thats good, I believe they were force to comment that on filming. She does not eat stinky tofu like everyone said, why become a chef if you do not have the guts to try new food. She is destroying the chinese culture and misleading Australians on chinese cooking. I hate her.. Her cookbooks are written with a whole lot of crap.

David Lee said...

Sorry, so she's not Chinese enough?

I wonder which 'Chinese' cook/TV personality has your approval.

Anonymous said...

Hmm, wanting your own tv show me thinks...


I suggest you actually get out from behind the safety of your laptop and chef for a living if its that offensive to your 'chinese' nature.

Anonymous said...

i'm chinese and the egglants she cooked on masterchef last night grossed me out. the dish was SOAKED in oil!!! i was especially appalled when she said chinese people love oil! yes, oil is essential but we definitely don't drown our food in oil! my mum was in shock!!

Anonymous said...

Kylie Kwong is the biggest pretender out there.

I have less respect for Masterchef ever since they had her on.

Her cookbook is lame. The ingredients are lame. Any person with an ounce of chinese cooking knowledge knows chinese cooking is so much more complex.

Anonymous said...

did you join our facebook group "get kylie off tv"

Anonymous said...

Leave Kylie Alone!

I think she's all right. So what if it isn't chinese food? The only place you'd get that is in China.

Get a life and leave Kylie alone.

Anonymous said...

Wow, so much time and effort put into hating someone or something when all you have to do is.... turn off your bloody TV! You all need to get a life.

Anonymous said...

I just went online to check out the menu of her restaurant. It is surely over priced and definately westernised. I don't see any dishes that is authentically chinese other than one or two like the steamed oysters.

I also agree with one of the comments made above about Kylie's super oily dish on Masterchef. That dish looked absoultely disguisting and how can people eat that shit! It was literally soaked in nothing but oil!! YUCK!

Anonymous said...

I just went online to check out the menu of her restaurant. It is surely over priced and definately westernised. I don't see any dishes that is authentically chinese other than one or two like the steamed oysters.

I also agree with one of the comments made above about Kylie's super oily dish on Masterchef. That dish looked absoultely disguisting and how can people eat that shit! It was literally soaked in nothing but oil!! YUCK!

Anonymous said...

I'm just watching her on Masterchef (she propositioned Mindy - the pretty white contestant during the show -yuk!) I hate her. Bloody pork chop! I didn't realise so many people agree with me.

I love food and travel shows. I really like Chinese food and culture, yet I can't watch her.

I Anglo, yet speak Cantonese and Putonghua (Mandarin) and I hate how she doesn't even attempt to speak Chinese. How can she claim to be an expert when she doesn't even possess the basic requirement to gain knowledge of the culture.

Anonymous said...

It pisses me off how she refers to chinese brocolli as "gay larn " thought it was called gai larn.
I am a ABC , grew up in a chinese restaurant where my parents worked 12 hour days to support my family and can speak Cantonese with a Aussie twang, don't know why Kylie can't learn a few phrases.

Add me to the I hate the fake Kylie Kwong club.



From a proud Cantonese speaking Australian Born Chinese.
I love your blog, thank you .

Anonymous said...

I agree with some things about the original post. Although, I'm sure that Kylie does have talent for cooking, but definitely does not get everything right. I could not believe the time when she said that a particular kind of asian prawn dish was called 'urinating prawn'. That was ridiculous! Because while yes...in Hong Kong, the local Hong Kong name for that type of prawn is 'Lie Leeeeww har', the english name is absolutely not that. But she chose to call it 'urinating prawn' on her show without researching the english name.

Anonymous said...

Get a life

Anonymous said...

I stumbled across this blog. It is hilarious! You were saying everything a person who truly understands Chinese cuisine is thinking. Thank you!!

Anonymous said...

Dang! You guys are going hard on Kylie. A lot of comments are laugh out loud funny. I just discovered her this weekend and loved the show. I'm African-American and love various Asian cuisines, but I wouldn't know what was authentic Chinese. I made her wok-fried eggs and they were delicious.

I did see her visit to China and was appalled that she would cut to the front of the egg-tart line and offer up her 'expensive' jewelry to get priority over the others waiting in that long line.

Also, I got the lesbian vibe with her man-like jeans and man-like tops. It was sealed for me when the blonde came to her house to have her portrait drawn. When she turned that picture around and it looked like chicken-scratch, I knew right then and there! She was admiring the woman more than she was drawing.

Anonymous said...

K Kwong's tv program is still on today (June 2015). She is insulting Chinese cuisine.

Unknown said...

Seriously get over it. Kylie is a personable woman that adjusts things to suit everyone. I find Kylie's recipes diverse and easy to follow. I live in the country so ingredients are hard to find. Kylie gives me the confidence to try new things with limited ingredients available. Thank you Kylie you are truly the people's chef, I can try what you show.

Anonymous said...

This post is spot on.. I have also thought she was totally gamon. She borders on being offensive when she visits China, taking over people's stalls and showing them how she thinks their dishes should be cooked. Cooks who have been doing their dishes for generations. She is to anyone who knows anything about real chinese food a complete appropriator who tries pass that cuisine off as her own. Urrgh...she is cringe worthy to say the least. She tries to do for chinese cuisine what nigella does for the food she presents, and fails. KK is a disgrace to the food of my heritage.

If her style is supposed to be fusion, then call it that. I love Nigella and I would any day prefer to watch her cook something Chinese over KK. At least she would pay it the respect it deserves and would be able to talk articulately and intelligently about it.

Anonymous said...

I thought she disappeared off TV (thankfully), but then SBS Food 33, decide to run repeats of her shows. I tried to watch them today without vomiting. She is incredibly ignorant. She really does chinese food and asian cuisine more generally a great disservice and takes it back to gold rush period or after where the only chinese food known in Oz was fried rice, sweet and sour pork and black bean beef. Oh, and spring rolls!

She really needs to take a leaf out of Poh Ling Yeow's and Luke Nguyen's books, take a decade out from spouting her ignorant rubbish and do some serious research, perhaps learn some Cantonese before attempting any more public cooking presentations

ABC girl said...

She always says is Chinese this and that. If she didn't, then this blog wouldn't exist.

Unknown said...

Hmm. Drowned in oil seems pretty Chinese to me.

Unknown said...

She needs to adjust her obnoxious attitude when in another person's kitchen. Pushing chefs aside to take over their wok as she turns her back to them. Every. Time.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately I have the same surname as her so we might even have the same ancestors :( I don't mind if her cooking is Aussie Chinese, I dislike it when she went to China, she made herself to be an expert in Chinese cooking but didn't even try to learn to say a few simple Mandarin or Cantonese sentences like 'hello' or 'thank you', and insisted on saying "HELLO" and spoke to the locals in English, just like those arrogant American tourists in the 80s. Comparing to Luke Nguyen, who has both Vietnamese and Chinese heritage tried to learn to speak some local languages and had a lovely rapport with the locals, Kylie's interaction with the locals was just awkward and cringe worthy.